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the initial wave of state polls showed romney doing pretty well in the battleground states. in the rasmussen polls over the last two days, obama is doing better. that's consistent with the trend i talked about earlier. the question is whether obama gets an outsized bounce in states like ohio, nevada and iowa where he was doing better than nationally. if you look at all of the national polls conducted since the first debate, what you see is about a three point gain for romney. if that holds and if that uniformly filtering down to the battleground states, romney would still trail in iowa, ohio and alabama and obama would have a slight advantage ♪ electoral college. >> continuing our theme of what really matters, let's talk about the polls. obviously, polls don't vote. but do they sway the electorate? do they see one person as leading or gaining and some people decide to change their vote? is there some science on do polls actually shape the election itself? >> i don't think there's very much evidence that polls shift the election. if they did, i think we would see, you know,
the initial wave of state polls showed romney doing pretty well in the battleground states. in the rasmussen polls over the last two days, obama is doing better. that's consistent with the trend i talked about earlier. the question is whether obama gets an outsized bounce in states like ohio, nevada and iowa where he was doing better than nationally. if you look at all of the national polls conducted since the first debate, what you see is about a three point gain for romney. if that holds and...
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a new poll today shows mitt romney makes gains in three key swing states. romney flips the script in virginia, now leading by one point. the fight for florida is a statistical dead heat. and romney has narrowed the gap this ohio, although the buckeye state, what every republican needs to win the white house, is still solidly in obama's corner. >> this is the conversation we were having before both conventions. so almost as everything has been erased. >> i think it accounts for the hemorrhaging that they let romney back in. >> joining me now is ed schultz host of the ed show. and let's start with this. congressman ryan as well as the chairman both trying to set the stage for tonight. let's listen. >> joe biden's been on will stage many times before. this is my first time. so, sure, it's a nervous situation. because joe biden is one of the most experienced debaters we have in modern politics. >> this is miss firhis first ti. joe biden's been doing this since the 1800s. he'll do a solid job. >> so when you listen to this, the base was pretty upset last night.
a new poll today shows mitt romney makes gains in three key swing states. romney flips the script in virginia, now leading by one point. the fight for florida is a statistical dead heat. and romney has narrowed the gap this ohio, although the buckeye state, what every republican needs to win the white house, is still solidly in obama's corner. >> this is the conversation we were having before both conventions. so almost as everything has been erased. >> i think it accounts for the...
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big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line, but ohio is still a problem. >> another factor in all three of these polls, over 90% said the debate made no difference. 6, 7 and 7% respectively who said the debates mattered to their vote. that is, not as helpful to romney as he might have hoped. >> the debate has not as much of an impact. >> sean: i was thinking that if joe biden loses and 25 day, i am thinking that nbc news -- it's a perfect place for an unhinged, over-the-top, extreme leftist. he would be perfect over there. >> chuck todd, the political director of nbc news labeled the rasmussen poll, qu
big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line,...
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. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with y
. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never...
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romney seems to have searched national polls than battlegrounds. i think this something i want to keep tracking. i think it's -- it's a little piece of evidence right now and it's been something that you know the president is stronger in battle grounds than any other states. how much of romney's bump is in the other 41 states, if you will? and in the national polls and where in the battlegrounds maybe everything was fought to a draw? that's something that has to be a keconcern to the romney team. >> chris cillizza, when we looked at the narrowing in the battleground polls, especially virginia, we're seeing an impact there also in a very important senate race because there had been an advantage for tim kaine over george alan there, as the president at the top of the ticket was pulling ahead but now that it's narrowed they are dead even. >> yeah. i think virginia's the one to look at in terms of down ballot effect, because we expect that race between tim kaine and george alan to be so close. i say if barack obama win virginia i'd been hard pressed to
romney seems to have searched national polls than battlegrounds. i think this something i want to keep tracking. i think it's -- it's a little piece of evidence right now and it's been something that you know the president is stronger in battle grounds than any other states. how much of romney's bump is in the other 41 states, if you will? and in the national polls and where in the battlegrounds maybe everything was fought to a draw? that's something that has to be a keconcern to the romney...
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when we come back, jim cramer on the stocks going up faster than mitt romney's poll numbers because of mitt romney's poll numbers. >> up next, a republican with a different view of thou fix america's fiscal mess. david stockman served in the reagan administration but he's not talking tax cuts, quite the opposite. larry kudlow will take him on. we count you down to the vice presidential debate in danville, kentucky. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three
when we come back, jim cramer on the stocks going up faster than mitt romney's poll numbers because of mitt romney's poll numbers. >> up next, a republican with a different view of thou fix america's fiscal mess. david stockman served in the reagan administration but he's not talking tax cuts, quite the opposite. larry kudlow will take him on. we count you down to the vice presidential debate in danville, kentucky. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every...
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it appears that in one poll, in the pew poll, mitt romney is up against the president and in the gallup seven-day tracking poll, the president is up 50 to 45, if i have mitt romney's number right in that poll. this race has been, is, and will continue to be until election day a very close race. and so either side can take heart in a poll that shows his or her candidate being on top but, remember, this race is basically tied. >> now, the vice presidential debate, the one and only one, will be be this thursday night and paul ryan, the republican vice presidential nominee, was questioning his weekend on what he was doing to prepare for the debate. here's his response. >> how you feeling about the debate? >> what debate? oh, yeah. i better get ready for that. >> you know, i better get started. you just reminded me. no, it's going well. >> what are you looking for in that debate, marge, on thursday night? >> well, first of all, paul ryan should focus on explaining the math. that's something he dismissed when asked about it on fox news about a week or two ago. >> right. >> so he should now fi
it appears that in one poll, in the pew poll, mitt romney is up against the president and in the gallup seven-day tracking poll, the president is up 50 to 45, if i have mitt romney's number right in that poll. this race has been, is, and will continue to be until election day a very close race. and so either side can take heart in a poll that shows his or her candidate being on top but, remember, this race is basically tied. >> now, the vice presidential debate, the one and only one, will...
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let me ask you about the latest polls because the pew poll now shows mitt romney ahead for the first time. these things could bounce around a little bit but certainly shows he has gained some advantage after that debate. >> well, i thought there was an interesting column by a fellow named nate silver 538 in "the new york times" plot s out how the elections have gone in the past. almost always when an incumbent president in the debate and a challenger does well which almost always happens the challenger goes up for a while in the polls but then goes back down. he think it would have much effect on the election and i tend to agree with him. >> that is if the candidate, if the president of the united states, comes back with a different game plan. what do you think he needs to do in the next debate he didn't do in the first debate? >> well, the bottom line is, i think that he is a fighter. i think he will come to the conclusion that he let romney get away with a little too much trying to be very presidential, and i don't think you'll see the same thing in the next debate. >> let's talk a
let me ask you about the latest polls because the pew poll now shows mitt romney ahead for the first time. these things could bounce around a little bit but certainly shows he has gained some advantage after that debate. >> well, i thought there was an interesting column by a fellow named nate silver 538 in "the new york times" plot s out how the elections have gone in the past. almost always when an incumbent president in the debate and a challenger does well which almost...
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to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the numbers back in july. >> and mark halperin, that may be the big takeaway from this poll. the race is getting much closer. nobody can predict what's going to happen. if you look at a big friend, thoug trend, you've got to look at a lot of americans in these swing states are looking at the economy saying things are getting better. >> it's clearly a huge factor and yet, obviously, the debate from denver is also a huge factor. i think, you know, we look a lot at the margin of error, and these numbers aren't shifting all that much. what's key is in a lot of the states the president is below 50. that
to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the...
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the latest polling shows mixed results. the pew poll has romney up by four. gallup's daily tracking has the president up by five. what does that mean? >> yeah, first of all, you know, you always take one poll in isolation or even two can be problematic. the best thing always on these is to look there's a few sites that do polling averages, real clear politics, "huffington post," they average all the different polls and put them together. if you want to look at these two right now, they might kind of both be true and it's because of this. the gallup one measures seven days. it's still got a number of predebate days there when oen was ahead. it's got the immediate post debate when romney seems to have pulled even or taken the lead in the two or three days immediately after. >> immediately after. >> what gallup also showed apparently in the last day that's included in the seven days, there was ho movement back towards obama. there was an end to the movement toward romney. so that's why he went from three ahead in the seven-day track yesterday to five ahead in th
the latest polling shows mixed results. the pew poll has romney up by four. gallup's daily tracking has the president up by five. what does that mean? >> yeah, first of all, you know, you always take one poll in isolation or even two can be problematic. the best thing always on these is to look there's a few sites that do polling averages, real clear politics, "huffington post," they average all the different polls and put them together. if you want to look at these two right...
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cnn poll has it at four. clearly, still a lot of work for romney. let's keep going. virginia, we saw polls before the first presidential debate starting to stretch outside the margin. back to a dead heat. that's nbc news "wall street journal" mars poll and down to florida and here's another one. it started to open up a handful. there is no question, no question, the race changed after the the first presidential debate. romney got a bounce. but when you get a bounce, the challenge is to sustain it. that's the big challenge. can paul ryan keep the republican momentum? >> so, it's narrowed in these battleground state, but is there any indication that first debate created new battleground states? >> some evidence. i'm a bit skeptical. but one state where the numbers changed, mitt romney's birth state of michigan. his dad was governor there. our cnn poll had it close to ten points. looked like no way the republicans could put that into play. three points. so that's within the margin of error. that sheds michigan back into play. do the democrats now think we have to spend
cnn poll has it at four. clearly, still a lot of work for romney. let's keep going. virginia, we saw polls before the first presidential debate starting to stretch outside the margin. back to a dead heat. that's nbc news "wall street journal" mars poll and down to florida and here's another one. it started to open up a handful. there is no question, no question, the race changed after the the first presidential debate. romney got a bounce. but when you get a bounce, the challenge is...
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romney got helped. the race got closer. >> we also had a conservative ideological advantage of conservative in the exit polls. what do you tell folks that look at those numbers? >> this tells you you can't weight your data by party idea. we've said it a million times during the campaign. there's national polls. they had a 15-point swing in party i.d. in two weeks. you get into a problem when they start doing that. what we're seeing is in ohio the effects of the early voting. those people are democratic, and they aren't likely voters, they're definite voters, and that's what's pulling these numbers. >> lee miringhoff, director of the marist poll. always good to see you. we'll see you in a few weeks. >>> vice president biden says he's anticipating a chance to draw a clear contract with the republican proposals at tonight's debate. joining me now, kentucky's democratic governor steve beshear. thanks for being here. >> thanks for coming to the commonwealth of kentucky. >> we love kentucky. as a democrat, yo
romney got helped. the race got closer. >> we also had a conservative ideological advantage of conservative in the exit polls. what do you tell folks that look at those numbers? >> this tells you you can't weight your data by party idea. we've said it a million times during the campaign. there's national polls. they had a 15-point swing in party i.d. in two weeks. you get into a problem when they start doing that. what we're seeing is in ohio the effects of the early voting. those...
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poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is within two points of the president. and tomorrow, both candidates head to ohio, battleground ohio, where early voting is already under way. tomorrow is the last day to register to vote there. veronica? >> thank you. mitt romney will deliver that major policy speech before noon eastern, but the obama campaign is issuing a preemptive strike with this new tv ad criticizing the republican candidate's past foreign policy faux pas. take a look. >> reckless. amateurish. that's what news media and fellow republicans called mitt romney's gaffe-filled july tour of england, israel, and poland, when our u.s. diplomats were attacked in libya, "the new york times" said romney's response showed an extraordinary lack of presidential character. >> the obama campaign said this will be romney's seventh speech on foreign policy. >>> venezuelan president hugo chavez gets to keep his job for another seven years, but his re-election came in the slim
poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is within two points of the president. and tomorrow, both candidates head to ohio, battleground ohio, where early voting is already under way. tomorrow is the last day to register to vote there. veronica? >> thank you. mitt romney will deliver that major policy speech before noon eastern, but the obama campaign is issuing a preemptive strike with this new tv ad...
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the romney ryan ticket road the debate performance to the lead in the latest fox news poll of likely voters. before the debate the massachusetts governor and current wisconsin congressman trailed the president and vice president 43-48. they were down 5. now they are up one. the lead is even larger with critical independent voters. romney ryan were down 4 to romney biden but now they were up 12 with 44 percent with democratic side 32 percent. another key number are the voters were unsure they want somebody else. that number shot up 6 points after the debate. the debates have the potential to move the needle quite a bit. with four weeks to go joe biden has been prepping for his in delaware with chris van holland playing ryan. the president handicapped tonight's big show down. >> joe just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective seeker but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> ryan has a chance to let voters decide for themselves. he had ted olsen as a stand in. he is trying to shine the spos spotlight on to someone who won't be on the stage tonight, president obama. >> wha
the romney ryan ticket road the debate performance to the lead in the latest fox news poll of likely voters. before the debate the massachusetts governor and current wisconsin congressman trailed the president and vice president 43-48. they were down 5. now they are up one. the lead is even larger with critical independent voters. romney ryan were down 4 to romney biden but now they were up 12 with 44 percent with democratic side 32 percent. another key number are the voters were unsure they...
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case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on romney's debate preparation. >> we'd say the same lie over and over and my dad learned then not to believe it. so while we didn't go to any of the formal debate preparation, we did the real hard stuff. as a father, he learned how to debate an obstinate child. >> kicking it off by suggesting the president is an obstinate child. that's great, mr. romney. what do you have for sale? >> i am going to put a cap on regulation and any new major regulation will have to be approved by congress. i'm not letting the politicians off the hook. >> absolutely, he's not letting politicians off the hook, just wall street, k street, polluters, abusers, everyone else
case in point, this afternoon's gallup poll showing the president leading mitt romney 49% to 46% among registered voters. among likely voters it's romney up by two leading the president 49% to 47%. folks, this is a tight race as both candidates are keenly aware. romney began in iowa, one of the states that could prove crucial to his hopes for a path to 270 electoral votes. and he was introduced by his son, josh, who had an interesting take on romney's debate preparation. >> we'd say the...
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people on twitter critique each poll. you have a run of romney polls that are good for him. people perceive patterns and random noise all the time. at the end of the day, if you digest everything with a coke of whiskey, whatever you want, you have time to add more perspective. we have more important and dramatic days with shifts in the race. most of the time, especially in the summer, it adds up to nothing. it was the same story, day after day after day. >> it was important to look at the average of polls. i think it's what happens at five thirty eight. there are other polls. i think one of the things i have to be careful of as consumers of polls is you can't trust a single or individual poll. gallup is doing a tracking poll, it's a trend. if you look at gallup and pugh, they found conflicting results by a difference of six percentage points. you can't trust any single poll. you have to go to the average. >> are we doing no more now that we have more polling? is it the case we have a more accurate sense because of a larger body of data, we can average it out, sitting here 25
people on twitter critique each poll. you have a run of romney polls that are good for him. people perceive patterns and random noise all the time. at the end of the day, if you digest everything with a coke of whiskey, whatever you want, you have time to add more perspective. we have more important and dramatic days with shifts in the race. most of the time, especially in the summer, it adds up to nothing. it was the same story, day after day after day. >> it was important to look at the...
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three days of polling after the debate, take a look, romney polling even with the president, erasing a five-point deficit. but then friday's strong jobs report could turn that around. i'm joined now by gallup poll editor in chief frank newport. frank, good to see you. good morning. >> good morning! >> okay, so, let me know what you think. how's the race shaping up? how much have we seen? how much have you been able to poll up to this point? >> boy, we're studying the numbers. in fact, we're just looking at the numbers from last night, which we're adding to our rolling average which we will report out at 1:00 today at gallup.com. our view of the race is that romney definitely got a significant boost on thursday and friday of last week. and by the way, that's probably what was picked up for the most part in that pew poll that was discussed. >> okay. >> but when we monitor our data from saturday and sunday, and now just looking at the numbers from last night, obama is picking back up again. so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we
three days of polling after the debate, take a look, romney polling even with the president, erasing a five-point deficit. but then friday's strong jobs report could turn that around. i'm joined now by gallup poll editor in chief frank newport. frank, good to see you. good morning. >> good morning! >> okay, so, let me know what you think. how's the race shaping up? how much have we seen? how much have you been able to poll up to this point? >> boy, we're studying the numbers....
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just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on election day make it unlikely in this pew sample that romney has the upper hand. and looking inside the pew numbers, we're looking at an unlikely -- now romney leads by six, 50-44. will we see that same shift in the battleground state polls? we'll have to see what happened what happens. >> this is the last day for voters to register to vote there, that's why they're both there. romney kicks off a two-day ohio journey, he'll be back in ohio again on friday. meanwhile the president holds an evening rally at ohio state university in columbus. by the way romney starts his day on a family farm in central iowa. another midwestern battleground state. paul ryan does his debate prep today in florida. the vice president signalled a new urgency to voters saying, quo
just last month in the same poll, romney trailed by eight points. driving romney surge, a spike in republican enthusiasm, more republicans made it through pew's likely voter screen than democrats. and a larger group of registered voters, the candidates are tied at 46. while it's unlikely returns on election day make it unlikely in this pew sample that romney has the upper hand. and looking inside the pew numbers, we're looking at an unlikely -- now romney leads by six, 50-44. will we see that...
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in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that poll in iowa shows a gain for mr. obama, a 5-point gain. in florida, the same poll shows a 4-point swing for romney. he's up by 2 points. so the major fall or minor lift, however, you rattle the number lose, as the overall national polling shifts and the swing state races shift with them, the state where the romney campaign is hoping for the biggest shift of all is in ohio. in modern political history, ohio has been the path to the presidency for republican candidates. if republican candidates win ohio, they win the white house. if mitt romney doesn't win ohio,
in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that...
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romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins. >> the media is focusing on one poll. >> that's reaction to the recent batch of polling, including that devastating pew poll that showed a four point romney lead. now consider that pew took an earlier poll in september a couple weeks before the debate, it was the republicans going ballistic when it showed romney eight points down. watch. >> these polls are basically just part and parcel of the campaign for barack obama to help him stay in this game as long as possible. >> if you believe what the polls are saying right now, you've got to believe that there's s
romney was getting hammered in the polls. keeping them honest though, disputing or downplaying the obvious, that's what campaigns do on both sides. >> it's not going to be about the polls. >> i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. >> in terms of mitt romney surging, just remember how much of a deficit he had to make up. he was in some cases double digits behind the president in all those attributes. >> pull back the reins....
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. >> hey, peter, according to that latest poll, romney down just a few points there behind president obama in ohio, inching closer by the day. what's different about the romney campaign strategy in the buckeye state right now versus that strategy maybe say two weeks ago? >> reporter: i think it's pretty clear that romney feels much more confident. he feels much more loose as he interacts with voters and delivers his stump speech. it's because of that debate performance about ten days or sore now. when we were on the trail for months, craig, it was very clear that people were here because they did not like president obama. increasingly they're here because they believe mitt romney is the guy that can beat him and lead this country. whether it's strategic or not, that's the biggest take away. stay technologically on the ground they're flooding ohio and other swing states with advertising, spending, restore our future. that's the primary super pac that has been supporting mitt romney from the start. there's some reporting today that they're now spending $14 million across nine swing sta
. >> hey, peter, according to that latest poll, romney down just a few points there behind president obama in ohio, inching closer by the day. what's different about the romney campaign strategy in the buckeye state right now versus that strategy maybe say two weeks ago? >> reporter: i think it's pretty clear that romney feels much more confident. he feels much more loose as he interacts with voters and delivers his stump speech. it's because of that debate performance about ten...